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The Conversation
by David Eide
Scenes from the Province of the Empire
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We were in the semblance of a great conversation. Since it was late it abruptly ended but everything he had told me, everything we had exchanged in the form of our dreams and experiences lay good and fast in my brain.
"I will tell you," he had begun,
"about the way men are. Men are angry at life,
they are growlers at their fate, they escape as
they can, they kill from time to time, they
aspire to the stars and that which stands in
their way becomes their enemy. So, with that as
a background, let's take one man, my friend
Niles Brah who always complained, oh yes,
complain, complain, complain heaven help me he
could do nothing else. I said to him, Niles, you
complain too much you need to visit some fabulous
place that is out of your mind, that is out of
the range of your mind, that is completely away
from anything which you know. Fine, he said,
where is that? I paused not knowing what to
answer since it seemed very apparent to me that
he would brush my suggestion right off. So, I
took down a large volume in my library. A blue
covered volume about 6" thick and used rarely,
but definitely used. I opened to the middle
section which had on one side a slick photograph
of an abstract, golden city that was not named.
There was intensely small, leaping text on the
other page. A few words I still remember.
'Dreams', 'burrowing', 'gratuitous', 'pathetic'
were the main ones. We read the text together
and stared at the picture and he suggested that
it suggested to him something
unattainable and therefore suspect. He began
complaining again. It is all so unattainable and
then he began to break down and cry. Oh for
God's sake, don't cry, complain I don't care. But
now I know that you hate that I complain, that I
am a complainer, well, I don't care, I don't care
what you think or anyone thinks we are all
unattainable to ourselves. No, we must go step
by step. That is, start from a discernible
point, a tiny unambiguous point made from the tip
of a fine, razor sharp pencil tip. There, now
think of any other point in the universe. He was
about to protest I could see this and I stayed
him with my hand. It is immeasurable for
certain but that is the point! Let us define
ourselves. We could be anywhere in the universe
and know where and what we are that is all.
That is what you want isn't it? Absolutely! he
shouted. Will I have to pray and serve you? You
are a madman I answered. But a particularly
modern version of the madman. Not the raving
type but the stubborn type. You want to be mad
because the specialists have convinced you that
madness is a power and you desire power. You go
mad, you desire power you go madder and you have
no power so now you are frustrated. But, madness
is still a Muse for you. You will not have to do
anything but connect the points that I draw for
you. Do that and you will prevent that great
complaint that rises in you from time to time.
Perpetual complaining, isn't that filthy of you?
You are hard on me, get to the next point. You
have one point and you are trying to draw me the
second point will you do that? Well, now, you
have thrown me off balance and made me think. I
was on a roll. We will put the second dot
somewhere on the north side of the star Antares.
Oh stop , stop it I don't know where these
things are. Stop all of this. I am going to
leave you now you are no god for a second I
thought you were a god but you are a nobody who
knows what the name of stars are. So, so long, I
am going to try and find a woman in the city
tonight but I doubt if I can find any healthy
one's. The healthy one's stay indoors these days
and drive expensive cars. They watch television
with their pet dogs and eat popcorn- well fine I
will find one who is on her way home. I will
comment on her dog and offer it a bone. But,
even then, I will be suspicious and demand to look
through her closet and refrigerator, yes, dammit,
her refrigerator because they were right when
they said you are what you eat; the people say
that all the time and they are sincere. You are
what you eat. I will not judge her but I
will leave if what she eats does not appeal to
me. Well, that is my immediate future. I wish I
could wait around for your story on Antares but I
must go to the city now. The ugly falling down
city that is a crypt so be it I feel half dead as
it is. Good-by I will see you sometime, perhaps
in two months. So, my friend says, he left and I
haven't seen him or heard from him since. I
hope nothing happened to him because he is the
type that could get into trouble in a city. He
would walk down a poor street and say the wrong
thing and get jumped by a gang and left for dead
but I hope I am wrong. In the immediacy of the
moment I felt the need to relieve myself. I did
so in a private room and came back but my friend
was missing. Well, he is gone, I will sit down
and read a book. The chair did not fit me well
but I sat and made a noise that I couldn't
identify and then opened the volume about how to
make ten million dollars in the stock market. Ah
yes, that is what I want to do. Actually six
million would be enough but they said ten million
so I wasn't going to complain. I wanted to buy a
baseball team. I wanted to build it by scratch,
player by player, coach by coach from the minors
to the majors. Oh , that is silly I thought in a
more meditative mood. You could put that ten
million dollars to better use. An enormous tower
for instance that would penetrate the atmosphere
and poke out several feet into the universe.
Obviously it would be equipped with life support
systems but would be completely clear so that one
would have an unobstructed view from the ground
to the universe. That would take ten million or
so. Perhaps, when I am wistful, I could buy a
concubine of Mormon women I hear they are not
jealous. I forgot that I was reading and went to
the television set and turned it on.
Immediately, the screen was filled with a huge
blue object that turned out to be the wing of a
bird. My first thought was a primitive one that
I think men must have had when he watched birds
fly. If men were meant to fly he would have
wings. But then, immediately after that, one
raises the question, well, why didn't he have
wings? Why would nature make him inferior in
that way? I was depressed watching television,
it always does that to me. It sucks something
from me every time I watch it as though it is
really watching me to suffer and sucking something
precious from me. A preacher was ranting on the
next channel that I was not giving him any money.
DON'T YOU WANT TO GET TO HEAVEN? DON'T YOU WANT
TO BE SAVED? He was frothing and sweating. I
took the book I had been reading and put it into
an envelope and mailed it to the address that was
on the television screen. It was late. The post
office is closed I thought to myself. I may run
into gangs with machine guns. But, God knows
that I was attempting to help the preacher; it is
the thought after all. Placated in this fashion
I took the book out of the envelope and began to
read it again, turning the TV down. On the
screen there was a love scene. A famous
actresses had one breast fully exposed, for a
moment, and I thought why would a famous
actress want to expose her breast? It did not
excite me. The scene dissolved and then came
wild dancing, wild dancers selling tennis shoes,
they were dancing like madmen, in and out, in and
out a dozen arms flinging upward simultaneously.
Do they make ten million dollars for this?
Whatever, I became engrossed with the possibility
of making ten million dollars from the stock
market. It said, buy low, sell high. At first I
thought they meant the disposition of the person.
Ah, this is too difficult. It is too difficult
to make ten million dollars. I will watch the
beautiful breast on the screen and be satisfied.
I will get in my auto and drive to Istanbul.
Yes, that place which I have been fascinated in
from grade school. I will shout in the Hagia
Sophia and then drive out the money changers. I
will disparage Moslems and run from them to the
Aegean Sea. I will rent a trireme and make it to
Carthage and find Augustine and tell him I have
seen the future and he shouldn't worry about
things. Stay libertine I will say, your god dies
in a few centuries. Now I have pangs of guilt.
I have done something wrong, made a taboo. It
frightens me. I expect the door to knock and the
taboo police to wrestle me to the floor. ON
BEHALF OF SOCIETY WE ARREST YOU. They will take
me to the empty hollow room several stories high
where your voice resounds and a judge will ask me
if I have committed the taboo. I will not answer
and then finally will say, if you insist yes I
did it but it was only a fantasy, a private joke,
the order remains I am no threat to it. He will
yell at the top of his lungs, his voice will fill
the room, YOU MAY ONLY DREAM AMONG THE DEAD
LIMBS OF THE OUTER TREES AMONG THE TOMBS OF
THE ANONYMOUS, BY THE HILL OF VISCERA.
So, I was sent to the Hill of Viscera for six months hard
labor. They had there among the other riff-raff
an amazing fellow. He told me that he was from
Slu and that he had amazing powers. For one, he
could see the thoughts of other people when he
desired. For two, he could make himself as old
or as young as he desired. He was not immortal
he assured me but almost. Do you want to see
what a five million year old man thinks about?
Yes, I answered, please show me. He did
something that I was sure was the mark of a
wizard and then, without changing any outward
appearance, began to speak like an old five
million year old man. And he began to tell me,
from the beginning, everything that he had seen
in his long life. He had seen the death of
kingdoms and of the bureaucracy and had seen
the polar caps melt twice and then freeze in an
ice age. He had seen travelers from other
planets attempting to root themselves on the
planet despite enormous resistance from the
natives, Ah old man, I finally interjected, stop
it is too much. This is too much information
for me I must stop it and think about where I am.
Well, I was by the Hill of Viscera. It was a
russet-colored hill rising on an angle to a
sparse clearing of trees, their boughs empty and
sad looking. Throughout the valley that extended
for what seemed a mile or so, there were the
figures of prisoners, of penitents who had been
placed there by the Judges. Tremendous energies
were released as they drove the source of the
taboos out of them, that is, the guards who were
dressed like Paladins. Each had a pikestaff
fifteen yards I would say. They marched stiffly
and correctly throughout the valley and could be
seen marching in pairs up the Hill of Viscera. I
was profoundly afraid of the guards. They wore
no expressions and only a few spoke. When they
spoke it was direct and to the brain and, more
importantly, to the very root of the taboo. The
mind felt sick. The words of the guard whirled
and spiraled out of control convulsing the
victim who rolled on the ground, writhing and
creating, throughout the valley, a field of energy.
While incarcerated in this fashion I pined for
the television set and the book on the stock
market. I could see them in my minds eye. I
imagined them better than they actually were.
Well I never got use to the Hill of Viscera.
Only once was I tempted to go up the Hill and see
what you could see from its plateau. Though
nothing had been said I assumed it was forbidden
for prisoners to go up, I began to go up. My
intention was to go up and then go down the
other side. I hid behind a rock, crouched so low I
could smell the heat of the dirt. It was night.
It was moonless and I figured I could make it in
ten minutes. But as I was preparing to leap from
the rock and steal my way up the hill a heavy
hand landed on my shoulder. I turned and it was
the ageless man. His eyes were filled with
terror. His face was contorted as if he were
going to yell at me. "You must not do it." "What do
you figure I am going to do?" "You are going to
climb the hill and find the way out. You will
find the other side and that is not wise for a
free man." "You speak strangely. You speak like
one of them, one of the guards." "I am the
guards. I am you. I am them all. Trust me,
don't go up the hill." My heart was pounding and
I was dumbfounded that the ageless fellow would
stop any attempt to escape, even explore. But he
spoke as one with authority. Clocks and
calendars were forbidden and I was entertained
the whole time by the ageless man who would tell
me what the imperial Paladins were thinking about
all the time. Their thoughts were not pleasant.
There were angry and resigned thoughts that you
would have assumed belonged to the prisoners.
Nonetheless. In the end they released me on a
city street in a city I had never been to. I was
given a package of currency and the key to a
hotel room. From one world to the other! That
is what I couldn't stand. That is what almost
drove me insane. And my abode. Who was taking
care of the abode? Such were my thoughts as I
walked through the city. Most people ignored me
and went about their business. But I noticed
that when I moved from one crowd to the next
there would be one person looking very intently
at me. It spooked me. They began to drive me on
a course I hardly gave any consent too. I found
myself in front of a palatial hotel, decked out
in fresco's and white paint......
Oakland, 1980
David Eide
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